[kabdib]

I keep hearing this about Glocks. While kind-of true (if you're not prepared to shoot something, why is your finger in the trigger guard?) I also believe in safety-in-depth, so my first pistol was a revolver (very heavy trigger pull, hard to make a mistake), and my second was an HK USP with a positive safety.

Don't get me wrong. I love the Glock 19 and 26, they're great. But I wouldn't recommend them as first pistols. There's a hell of a lot going on in an autoloader, and another level of "this thing won't go off" is pretty reassuring in the beginning.

[gcb0]

you really think safety toggles are to protect against fingers?!?

[kevin_thibedeau]

Considering the number of trained LEOs who have given themselves Glock foot it can't be seriously considered as a service weapon.

[dsfyu404ed]

Yeah, but the way a typical city PD discharges firearms makes the Mujahadeen look like professionals. The armed forces are much better at things like not having negligent discharges and, shooting what they're aiming for and finding a reason to shoot before opening fire. The police might not be able to handle a gun without five redundant safeties but a 18yo in a combat situation with a few months of training and an incentive to do their job seems to manage just fine.

[gingerbread-man]

The almost-ubiquitous Blackhawk SERPA retention holsters are a big contributor to this. The button you have to press to release the weapon from its holster makes it all too easy to hit the trigger before you intend to.

[PhantomGremlin]

the number of trained LEOs who have given themselves Glock foot

Here's a youtube video of exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-jTCNZSmY

As one of the comments said: "Just another example of a police officer shooting a black man for no reason."