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by brianpgordon 3432 days ago
True, but being healthier than smoking is not exactly a high bar.

If you must take nicotine as a nootropic, take it orally. Vaping is much more addictive than letting a 2mg lozenge slowly dissolve. Relative addictiveness of different ROAs is directly correlated with how quickly the drug takes effect, and when you vape the nicotine hits your bloodstream within seconds.

Also I can't mention enough that if you take an MAOI you should stay far away from nicotine.

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You can vape with no nicotine at all, or you can vape from 0.1mg/ml all the way past 50mg/ml if you wanted to. "Vaping is much more addictive" is like saying sugar is more addicting from a glass of chocolate milk than than it is from a bag of gummy worms.

And I'd say 95% healthier is a pretty good margin.

You should understand that different drug delivery methods will have different impacts on a drug's half life and effect (intensity) on your body. Inhaling is more powerful than taking orally. Shooting up is more powerful than inhaling.
Inhaling cigarette smoke is an almost instant intake of nicotine. Vaping it is not nearly so. It’s still an open question as to why, but the current thought is because the atomized liquid droplets are much, much larger than the smoke particulates that come from burning tobacco. The atomized liquid doesn’t make it into the alveoli where it directly enters the bloodstream. Instead, the vapor coats the bronchial and nasal passages and is slowly absorbed that way.

There’s still debate as to whether the bulk of the nicotine is even absorbed in the lungs vs. deposited vapor in the nasal and oral mucosa. But whatever the route, vaping is significantly slower than smoking—something that a lot of “switchers” don’t appreciate. (They don’t get the instant gratification that they did when taking that first drag off of a cigarette.)

I don’t mean to refute your point. The hierarchy of drug intake is legitimate. But vaping is more like “inhalation*” with an asterisk. Maybe faster than a lozenge or patch, but definitely slower than smoking it.

Well no, vaping is more addictive because inhalation as an ROA is more addictive. This is a well studied effect.
On the other hand, I would say smoking crack is much more addictive than snorting cocaine but that's just my opinion. Maybe someone with more exerience could weigh in?
I would tend to agree that lozenges might be a better option, unfortunately for myself I get hiccups from the lozenges and nightmares from patches so I have made the choice to vape over smoking. I am a bit concerned with the glycerin and glycol that is enentering my bloodstream may be causing me to gain weight but that might just be me self medicating with food aswell. Hands down vaping is better than smoking as a nicotine delivery method..imho
"Also I can't mention enough that if you take an MAOI you should stay far away from nicotine."

Can you explain more? You mean in addiction terms (I'd agree) or something else?

part of the problem with this is that, from what i've heard, the actual action of putting the cigarette to your mouth is addictive as well. in many cases, people will advise smokers to do the action with a pen or some such to help with that. i can only imagine that vaping would be even closer, and help even more