[aryehof]

I feel we are starting to lose the plot. The problem isn't about learning another language or which to use next. Instead it is about how to solve and represent complex problems and systems in code.

Any language is a means to an end, not the end itself.

Focusing on languages and language constructs is of value to those in academia and those working solely in the domains of computing and computer science. For the rest, it is the equivalent of navel gazing, the equivalent of focusing on grammar, when the task is authoring a novel.

[dwaltrip]

I agree whole-heartedly. However, as we take on projects of larger scope and complexity, reflecting on the craft in a measured and skeptical way can be powerful and productive. It's a tricky line to walk.