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by toor2 3440 days ago
>Banking, retail, fashion, you will get such comments everywhere. A lot of men are jerks indeed but this is a social problem, not an industry one.

This is a moral equivalence fallacy, a red herring of sorts. You are saying this women's frustration with her industry is irrelevant to her industry because a handful of unrelated indusries have problems that could be similar.

This argument ignores that CS/IT is largely male and notorious are for this disgusting behavior. It's one of the only industries that had a greater percentage of women in the 80s than it does now. There are industries that do not suffer from this problem at all or nearly to the same degree.

In full, this women's expirence is directly related to overt mysogeny in industry culture and labeling it as a "social problem" willfully ignores this problem in tech thus perpetuating it further.

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Notoriety is not direct evidence. People can be notorious without being guilty. I don't know whether other fields with a similar proportion of men have similar problems.

Studies highly welcome. Hearsay somewhat less.

>Notoriety is not direct evidence. People can be notorious without being guilty.

This argument is a fallacy fallacy. Sure I made a unsubstantiated claim but it doesn't contradict or invalidate my general argument.

>I don't know weather other fields with a similar proportion of men have similar problems.

How is this relevant? I get the feeling that you read my comment looking for some insignificant hyperbole you could attack in order to derail my general argument to perpetuate your willful ignorance enabled by your male priveldge.

>Studies highly welcome

How about listening to the _women_ in tech like the one who wrote the blog post we are commenting on?