[kbart]

CNN, BBC and probably all of Western media channels have their agenda, but none of them is straightforward propaganda with direct control by government as RT is. Don't make mistake here, there are no RT counterpart in West, despite RT trying very hard to "prove" otherwise.

[kupaka]

The US has Voice Of America, which serves a similar purpose: www.voanews.com.

[talmand]

I think I would list BBC up there under government controlled, but I don't necessarily discredit them because of it.

[ionised]

No, propaganda in the west is far more subtle and insidious that most people don't even realise they are bombarded with it on a daily basis.

[chopin]

Direct or indirect government control doesn't matter much for me. RT has the _advantage_ that it's overt.

[RodericDay]

Propaganda for a state that controls hands-on and directly will be managed hands-on and directly.

Propaganda for a state that controls via economic incentives and backroom greasing will be handled via economic incentives and backroom greasing.

I'm a South American living in Canada and I honestly find this effort of yours to get people to stop sharing RT hilarious. I watch american channels (or Al-Jazeera) for news about Russia (or the Middle East), and vice-versa. This works well.

Hillary Clinton lost largely because the New York Times, your paper of record, assured people that she had in the bag and that they could stay home. Now people want to blame Russia for "hacking the election", and it's been reported so poorly by the New York Times and The Washington Post that 50% of liberals polled now believe that Russia hacked the vote tallies themselves. [0]

This is very similar to how in the wake of 9/11, the ignorance about the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan was exploited to rally support for war in the former. Or how the torture report was buried.

Take a step back and look at try to look at your posting in this topic objectively. You're fear-mongering and shaming, and not being persuasive.

I encourage everyone to read this article by Emily Bartlett Hines about "How The Times Failed You" [1]

[0] https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/12/27/belief-conspiracies...

[1] https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/01/how-the-times-failed-...

[kbart]

"Take a step back and look at try to look at your posting in this topic objectively."

I happen to live in a country that's bordering Russia and can see first handedly what damage propaganda causes, especially to minorities here. So sorry, I can't "step back and see objectively". Propaganda is a weapon and should not be tolerated as such.

[RodericDay]

I'm South American so I have first handedly seen how American propaganda works. It may be different from Russian propaganda, but your plea that people stop sharing RussiaToday, in absence of equal pleas against The New York Times, comes off as ignorant. You may be scared about Russian military aggression, but I beg you to compare how much military aggression the US and Russia are both engaged in right now.

By the way, I decided to share the well-argued, well-cited article about the issues with pro-Clinton New York Times reporting on HackerNews, it got three upvotes, and then it got flagged to death.

Consider that we may both be between a rock and a hard place.