[mongmong]

I agree with you if youre saying we should acknowledge that bad luck can trump effort, but i don't agree this is a healthy attitude to carry over in your day to day life. Effort is something I can control. Could I fail no matter how much i try? Yes absolutely. Ask Hillary. But you won't know until you try.

[wazoox]

Well I was just trying to set some contrast on the fundamental difference of points of view from the first comment I answered to.