[popobobo]

Poverty is poor people's own problem to fix. I am not against better social benefits. But I don't live in dreams either.

[jandrese]

Its your job to shovel yourself out of the shit that we keep shitting on you. Don't stop or you will drown! If you work real hard you might even get yourself uncovered to your waist, that's social mobility!

One of the caveats of capitalism is that capital creates capital, wealth accumulates naturally at the top. This is why it has to be balanced with strong social welfare systems to avoid reverting to feudalism.

[battlebot]

Or something...I'm not sure social welfare has done anything except create an ever-growing dependent class that must be paid to do nothing.

[joeyo]

Maybe so, but I don't think we want the sword to be the solution.