[agumonkey]

No one likes to die after years of diabetes either. Our brains aren't the best compass, and society relies on shifting it as much as possible.

[leereeves]

Not many people make decisions today based on what's best for them in the long term.

Certainly society could impose choices on people that would be better in the long term, but is that compatible with freedom?

[agumonkey]

Freedom in today's society is pretty laughable. You don't have time to know, learn or experience a lot; how can you choose ?

[leereeves]

How does that make freedom laughable?

You can't do everything (you never could), but you can choose what to do.

[agumonkey]

Because it's a very narrow vision of freedom fed to you from an biased third party.

[leereeves]

Who's this third party feeding you your definition of freedom?

You could stop listening to them and choose to do what you want.

[agumonkey]

That society telling you that staying in your couch watching TV is is good. Proof: it feels good, and everybody does it so it must be. And I spend much hours at a job, so I better use these dollars.