[zardeh]

So to be fair, I haven't used a lot of C++, but what I have has been unlikeable.

I'm a pythonist most of the time, although I've done a not insignficant amount of work in C, but I like high level languages more, and C++ feels like the worst of all the worlds. It is complex and bloated (templates) and magical and all kinds of things. I think I summed it up one day by saying that, as a newbie to C++ my frustrations with the language were summed up by a 0 argument object constructor having no parenthesis if it was stack allocated, but heap allocation or arguments require parens, because the 0 arg constructor would conflict with a function prototype if it had parens.

There's so much bloat and cruft and oldness that the language has baked in inconsistencies and gotchas and so much stuff (which of the 12 different kinds of pointers should I use) that it is horrible to learn.

Rust on the other hand has complex semantics, but they are well defined, sensible, and logical. Sure I sometimes want to smack the borrow checker, but the reason why isn't "someone made it this way before I was born and now I'm stuck with the results".