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by eridius 3440 days ago
If your threat model is the government compelling Facebook, then you should be using a different product that's geared specifically towards security, such as Signal. WhatsApp is a mass-market product aimed at the whole world, which means it makes different tradeoffs, providing a less comprehensive threat model in favor of higher usability. And that's a perfectly fine thing for this app to do.
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Yes, thank you. So many people in this thread are making the absurd assertion that security is a binary thing — it's either totally secure against all threats, or it's insecure.

What the security community has spent the last 20 or so years coming to grips with is that it's very hard to cover every attack surface, and not wind up with a product that nobody outside of a select few are smart or dedicated enough to use (e.g., GPG), or that people don't just blindly click through endless warnings (e.g., the not-so-distant days of TLS). What we can do is make incremental improvement over the existing tools that people use by covering more in the threat model or improving the usability such that more people use it and/or fewer people ignore important concerns.

As a mass-market anti-surveillance and privacy-enabling chat app, WhatsApp is an incredible success. It's not replacing GPG with a carefully-curated web of trust. It's replacing plaintext SMS.

There are better tools if you know your threat model includes targeted, high-budget attacks the FSB, NSA, or CIA.