[ggame]

I was told this by EU loving Germans with the explanation that the Germans, and Europeans, can't be trusted and need a superstate to prevent war. "Never again." Obviously forgetting the US civil war.

It's a natural position that logically falls out when you combine the anti-war rational behind the EU with the undemocracy nature of the EU.

That the EU is undemocratic is in general agreement. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd love to see it.

[dragonwriter]

> Obviously forgetting the US civil war.

Clearly, you mean the various internal wars of (among other European superstates) the Holy Roman Empire, which are far more relevant to a European superstate than the US Civil War is.

[ggame]

I figured one counter example was sufficient. Thanks for adding to the list