[mamadrood]

46k is really low in France for an experienced dev and that's outside of Paris. Junior dev engineer earn at least 45k when they begin in Paris, and it gets to 60k in about 5-10 years. Also corporate taxes are about 23% but you're right on personal income.

[throwaway1892]

Well, my 36k salary, while working around Paris, disagree with your assertion.

[Chris2048]

Begging the question - what do you do, and how long have you worked...

[throwaway1892]

I've had my Engineer's Degrees from ISEP last year and I'm working at Alten since October 2016. My official title is development engineer (Ingénieur d'études). Before that, I've done two six-months internship as a junior java dev.

Alten is a technology and engineering consulting company, which means, in the context of the French market, that when a company, need a particular profile (like java dev) to staff a position for a set amount of time (like for the expected duration of a project), they'll contract Alten for a developer, java, for x months.

[Chris2048]

Sound like a temp agency, ala Accenture.

Does it track market rates? I've worked for a company before that took fresh grads, and relied strongly on them never entering the market for themselves and realising what market rate was.

[user5994461]

Yes. That's a temp agency (or an Indian consulting company but French, if you're familiar with the concept).

They're know for paying shit, and there are arrangements between agencies to not compete with each other.

Actual salaries at these places have been on a slow downward trend for many years.

[throwaway1892]

Yeah, like a temp agency, but we are full employees, which means we are still paid between contracts.

The problem is knowing the market rate.

[Chris2048]

Yep, same as the company I worked for. Market rate is hard to discover, but harder still if you have an entity working against you - the company I worked for had a binding contract with any client preventing them from revealing how much they paid for temps.

Do you have a period of time you are contracted to work? If you can make friends in the Paris dev community, you might be able to find out how good/bad your pay is.

[ViktorMihov]

46k actually high for France and probably average for mid level in Paris.

[user5994461]

There's only a few guys out of a few Parisian schools, all at master's level, that have any chance to get 45k as a junior in Paris.

Looks one you're one of them if that's what you've got? ;)