[FabHK]

I'm surprised at your negative take. The article you link is from 2014. They do encrypt chats now, and group chats, and voice, and video, all e2e, as far as I can tell.

My understanding is that the developers sit in Berlin, but the legal entity is in Switzerland.

Their privacy policy [1] states that they retain logs for 72h, and not much else. Only hashed contact info (emails/phone numbers) are uploaded, after opt-in. It all sounds very reasonable.

Your argument seems to be that they're an untrustworthy mess - but I don't see much evidence of that, except for possibly some braggadocio in that old article.

> Check out some of the code.

Yes, it is on github [2], so you can do that, which is nice.

[1] https://medium.com/wire-news/simple-privacy-policy-72-hour-l...

[2] https://github.com/wireapp