[svennek]

Most people I hear having problems with Systems is either on Redhat or Debian - not realising the both are mangling systemd badly. RHEL took in systemd way too early and are missing a lot of needed functionality. Also the have an ungodly amount of patches on top - so much you could argue it should be named redhatd instead. Debian just chooses to take the worst possible middle position due to politics. All of the disadvantages from systemd, but not really any of the great stuff as systemd units often just start shellscripts due to compatibility.... If you want to try systemd in all its glory try Arch or something downstream from it... I for one think that systemd has made my admin-life so much better ..

[AstralStorm]

I am running systemd on Gentoo. (like Sabayon) While some of the features are nice, it is a royal pain to upgrade due to intertwined deps and forced restarts.

And it doesn't do anything OpenRC couldn't do, in fact its journald is a pain which had to be worked around. OpenRC way of doing socket activations and dbus activations also works slightly better (in case something crashes) It does parallelism just as well, service dependencies too.

Gentoo does not mangle anything related to systemd unlike the mentioned distributions.

[svennek]

Yeah, Gentoo is quite nice in that regard, but isn't it still focussed on openrc? I was a ten plus years gentooo user before I switched to Arch (mostly because I got fed up with compiling)

[jakeogh]

OpenRC is the first option in the install guide, but you can choose systemd. I cant think of a good reason to do so.