[nictrix]

I agree, Upstart was great for most things and was simple to understand. Though I ran into some difficult fork, exec issues for certain processes. I sometimes had to run a wrapper to use upstart, but those seemed to be edge cases.

I'd prefer if we stuck with Upstart and improved on it, though it already seems like a distant dream.

[digi_owl]

I sometimes wonder if edge cases are inherently fractal. take care of one and two more spawn.

Thus when i see some dev talk about exorcising edge cases because of user friendliness i see them preaching a fools errand.