[vorg]

> I use Groovy/Grails and love it, and can hire Java/Spring people

Which version of Grails is that? I've heard virtually no-one's upgraded to version 3 since it came out, and not many people are starting new Grails projects, so it's all Grails 2.x. Nowadays, Apache Groovy seems to only be used for glue code, build files, and test scripts.

[dmux]

Sadly tooling support for 3.x isn't as strong as it was/is for the 2.x versions. Trying to get Eclipse or Netbeans to work with Grails 3.x is extremely error prone and buggy.