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by stale2002 3444 days ago
You CANNOT freely organize yourself in an communism.

This is because as soon as you start "freely organzing" a whole bunch of my property now apparently becomes "means of production" and gets siezed from me.

What if I and a group of other people want to organize and work together, in exchange for wages with fully voluntary other people?
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ue_ 3444 days ago
>What if I and a group of other people want to organize and work together, in exchange for wages with fully voluntary other people?

There's no problem with that, but the people working for you wouldn't be very clever - there would be no reason to sell your labour under Communism. In fact, it would be so backward, the exploitation so evident, that nobody would even bother. Why would you want to work for wages when there are no wages under Communism?

Nobody is going to stop you from doing it. Communism is stateless. But you'd be pretty stupid to be doing it, and it would be a massive waste of time and resources. Nobody in their right mind would work for wages in a system where everyone else gets the product of their labour.

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stale2002 3443 days ago
In this wonderful future, there will still be scarcity. There isn't going to be an infinite number of things.

Sure, maybe all my food and housing is paid for. But what if I want more stuff, that I couldn't normally get?

What if I WANT to work for a wage, in order to get these other things? That doesn't sound stupid at all.

Or perhaps the person who I am working for, due to him having a really good business model, or idea, or skill set, produces so much product of labor that I rather get a small portion of my product of labor from him, than get an even smaller product of labor the "normal" way, even if the normal way I receive is my "fair" share?

I as an employee do not care a single bit about getting my "fair share" of product of labor. I care about MAXIMIZING my absolute amount of product of labor.

As in, I'd rather have 10 percent of 100,000$ than 100% of 1 ,000$. Why would I care if my boss gets 0 dollars or 90,000$s?

I don't care if my boss "exploits" me, as long as it is a better option than working for a "fair" share anywhere else

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