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by toomuchtodo 3455 days ago
As a Tesla investor, I don't want legacy auto manufacturers getting a leg up after Tesla was the one who poured tens of millions of dollars into their charging network.

I would fight this legislation every step of the way, even if I had to liquidate all of my TSLA holdings to do so. You (legacy automakers) want to not take EVs seriously until someone spent the last decade making them practical and desirable, and then try to use legislation to catch up? Tough.
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sangnoir 3455 days ago
Looks like you're going to have to fight with Tesla[1] then:

> If we clear a path to the creation of compelling electric vehicles, but then lay intellectual property landmines behind us to inhibit others, we are acting in a manner contrary to that goal. Tesla will not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology.

1. https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you

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toomuchtodo 3455 days ago
Not at all. Musk has said there are other carmakers using their patents; great! That doesn't mean they're building out charging networks globally.

Tesla is a member of the new CCS fast charging consortium (which supersedes the current "fast" charging CHAdeMO standard) [1], but they're the only ones still building out their manufacturer charging system network.

[1] https://longtailpipe.com/2016/04/18/tesla-joins-150-kw-ccs-f...

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forgetsusername 3455 days ago
>You (legacy automakers) want to not take EVs seriously until someone spent the last decade making them practical and desirable, and then try to use legislation to catch up? Tough.

The Supercharging Network isn't as big a deal as you're letting on. A standard will be achieved, fuelling stations will install them (they own a lot of real estate) and the minimal advantage this is now providing Tesla buyers will disappear. A charger network is not a moat.

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toomuchtodo 3455 days ago
Why would you go to a fueling station when you can charge at home, at Superchargers, and destination chargers at businesses? No one is going to gas stations again with EVs, even if they convert to EV charging stations.
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forgetsusername 3454 days ago
>Why would you go to a fueling station when you can charge at home, at Superchargers, and destination chargers at businesses

How is a Supercharging station different from a fuelling station?

Other EV users won't go to a "Tesla SuperCharging Station", they'll go to a "BP FastCharge" or "Exxon MegaCharge" station (or some entrepreneurial EV charging outfit).

My point was, the Supercharging Network isn't a big advantage.

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toomuchtodo 3453 days ago
You will only ever need a Supercharger if you're traveling more than ~300 miles in a day; otherwise, you're charging nightly at home.
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ktRolster 3455 days ago
That seems like a fight you're going to lose. As for me, I'm on the side of open standards (because they are so obviously beneficial).

That might want to be an area where you "pick your battles," and save your energy for something else.

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