[lightedman]

"marijuana is not physically addictive"

As a lifetime medical patient, this is not entirely true. There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension. Another one is lack of dreaming/REM sleep (as cannabis usage depletes your melatonin/serotonin levels, which effects your REM sleep.)

"THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people"

THC-Vivarin will hit you so hard I'd be surprised if you could remain standing despite the fact it only lasts for about 15 minutes.

[gotrecruit]

"There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension."

i don't know what you've been smoking, but as a daily "practically 24/7" smoker myself, i've never experienced any of these when i leave the country and go without cannabis for weeks (or months) at a time. for background: i smoke first thing when i wake up, and i pretty much take a hit from the bong every 30 mins as i work from home. my work and lifestyle allows for such frequent consumption. point i'm making is, i'm a very heavy smoker so i'm a reasonably good gauge for addictive potential.

every 6 months, i take a tolerance break by visiting family in another country. guess what happens when i go cold turkey during these visits? absolutely nothing. no shaking, no foaming at the mouth, no physical withdrawal whatsoever. do i get a little bit irritated if i think about how i can't get weed? sure. but if i choose not to think about it? i don't even notice anything different at all.

regarding the lack of dreaming, yes that may be true. however, as someone who also works out every day at the gym, i felt absolutely no difference in physical recovery nor mental recovery at all.

i think the point i'm making is: whatever "withdrawal" you're experiencing is entirely in your own head. you want to believe it's there, so it's there.

[lightedman]

"i'm a very heavy smoker so i'm a reasonably good gauge for addictive potential"

Every human's body chemistry is different, so no, you are not a good gauge. To boot, I consume WAY MORE than you - I go through about 5-6 grams of concentrate a day. Get your leg replaced with titanium and plastic composites and see if your consumption doesn't jump up to really high levels due to chronic post-operative pain.

"every 6 months, i take a tolerance break by visiting family in another country."

Tolerance breaks simply aren't on the menu for me.

"i think the point i'm making is: whatever "withdrawal" you're experiencing is entirely in your own head"

Except I go to a doctor and they can physically measure everything, right down to my blood pressure, when I'm in withdrawal, and then watch everything change after I take a hit, so no, it's REAL.

Again, licensed MEDICAL patient. State card-carrying. I go to real doctors while you rely upon your own anecdotes.

[ryanlol]

>THC-Vivarin

Huh?

[lightedman]

THC-Varin (stupid autocorrect on my phone from prior post) (AKA THC-V)is a highly-psychoative, hard-hitting THC homologue that is highly stimulating with very short duration of effect. High levels of this are present in African and Asian sativa strains. If you've ever taken a hit of stuff that got you high immediately, chances are you just had a quick THC-V dose from the strain. It lasts about 15 minutes, then fades away, leaving the normal delta-9 THC to do its thing for the next few hours.

[extra88]

Vivarin is brand of caffeine pill (haven't heard the name since the Nineties), I've not heard of combining it with THC.