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by grzm 3448 days ago
(2009)
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Really? Why?

EDIT: I see this terse comment (or rather, a comment with the form of) often, but since the articles are often javascript framework related, I just assume it's because that world keeps shifting. But, here, not so much. I don't see any guidance in the guidelines to denote the age of "timeless" publications. On the other hand, I saw somebody demand/request/suggest "(1912)" after an Edgar Rice Burroughs work some time back. I guess I'm missing something?

It's common to provide the year of publication if it isn't current as some additional metadata. Edit to add: This short, terse comment serves two purposes: lets mods or the submitter know that they may want to update the title, and lets viewers know the year in the meantime. While it's not in the guidelines, it's customary. Currently six of the submissions on the front page feature years. The "[pdf]" and "[video]" "tags" are similar.
Gotcha. That makes sense. Thank you.

> It's common to provide the year of publication if it isn't current as some additional metadata.

I haven't seen that elsewhere (on other sites), except in posting bibliographies, and where it is common, I've seen title-author-publication-date as a bundle. It's not in the HN Guidelines; has this become a community thing? Is it considered (by the community members) helpful?

has this become a community thing? Is it considered (by the community members) helpful?

Yes to both. If it weren't, I doubt members would continue the practice. I find it useful to know that it may be something I've come across in the past. It also puts it in some context.

Have you considered this may be a form of cargo-cult?

This editorializing of the titles is similar to communities that have higher-ups that are equal-but-more-so (mods) that suddenly because of their status decide that their view must be the right one.

Mods adding the (publication year) is exactly like saying "hey, I've kind of read this, it's kind of old and you may (not) be interested in it because it's <years old>. I have no idea of the real value of the text but the year may give you a clue". Please don't.

I don't have any issues with original submitter doing this.

I personally find it useful for the reasons I gave above. Given that other members of the community sometimes complain that submissions aren't new or current, I think it's likely useful to them as well. Submission titles are also changed for other reasons in keeping with the guidelines, such as please use the original title, unless it is misleading or link bait.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Similarly, the "[pdf]" and "[video]" tags are included in the guidelines:

If you submit a link to a video or pdf, please warn us by appending [video] or [pdf] to the title.

It sounds like you don't find it useful, which is fair enough. Do you find it harmful or misleading in some way? If so, how so?

Edit to add: Parent updated with additional rationale:

Mods adding the (publication year) is exactly like saying "hey, I've kind of read this, it's kind of old and you may (not) be interested in it because it's <years old>. I have no idea of the real value of the text but the year may give you a clue".

I think you're reading too much into it. For me, it just puts the post into chronological context. It doesn't give me the impression that it's any less worthwhile to read. In some cases, the year provides additional interest, particularly if it's older.

It often helps to answer "I've seen something with this title before. Is this the thing I know already, or something new?" without clicking the link.
I personallu consider a yearstamp to be a decent disambiguation between "this is current news" v. "this is old news that's still interesting".
Thanks! Updated.