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by KonaB 5884 days ago
Thanks for the intelligent comment. Finally!

I am not against intelligent critique of GS, the government, whatever. In fact, such critique is required to ensure the proper functioning of the system, closing the feedback loop and providing the required checks. What I am against is Pavlovian unintelligent critique, and one sees a lot of that when the topic is Wall Street. And even though a lot of HN'ers are deeply knowledgeable about Finance, the majority is clearly clueless. This is HN, after all, not NucPhyn.

I am no GS'er, nor am I their useful idiot. They are merely maximizing their utility through whatever means necessary. The one difference between me and you guys is that I don't claim that I am a saint who would be uncapable of doing what GS is doing if I were on their shoes. It's easy to be full of virtue when one does not have the chance to do any evil. Business is hard, but the players in the financial market are voluntary participants. If GS has an information edge and rapes everyone else on a regular basis, maybe the prey should leave the market. It's a winner-take-all scenario, whether we like it or not.

Change the regulation, they will find a new way of gaming the system. Increase taxes, and they will find a loophole. The only way of taming these hyper-motivated people is by eliminating all economic freedom, and I oppose that on ideological grounds. So, I am happier to have a market where GS pillages their counterparties than to have the alternative scenarios. No one said that the best of all worlds was ever attainable. It sucks. One could try to change human nature, but we all know how that worked in the past...

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If GS has an information edge and rapes everyone else on a regular basis, maybe the prey should leave the market. It's a winner-take-all scenario, whether we like it or not.

Hardly the definition of a well-functioning market. Pretty much all economists agree that monopoly outcomes are a bad thing.

What I find unsettling about this report is the supposed consistency of GS - they came out ahead of the market every single day? Really? The phrase 'too good to be true' springs to mind.

Even if you're not playing in the financial markets yourself, in the end you still pay higher prices for goods and services for every extra middleman in the value chain (from shareholders to suppliers to manufacturers ...) taking his/her cut.
.Replace("GS", "Pirates")
I can't. The trademark is already registered ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Capital_LLC

The only way of taming these hyper-motivated people is by eliminating all economic freedom, and I oppose that on ideological grounds

speaking of ideology, the premise of Free Market is that government and society at least try to prevent fraud.

I'm myself not sure that GS is fraud, but maybe that's how their business of front-running and "intelligent market-making" will be defined by their former clients and society in few years from now.