[chjohasbrouck]

> Urgh. It has been several years now since I last had to deal with Magento, and nothing I've seen over the years suggests it has got any better.

One of their biggest vendors, WebShopApps, happened to write a pretty scathing open letter to Magento yesterday if you're interested:

http://webshopapps.com/blog/2017/01/what-magento-should-spen...

This is a company that just a year ago was making almost all of its revenue off of the Magento platform, and they are one of the most-respected brands in that community. Not a good sign for Magento.

[benmarks]

We're nothing if not blessed by a vocal community, many of whom - like Karen - have their livelihoods as well as the livelihoods of employees to look after.

Karen raises some valid points. Others have raised some additional points as well as counterpoints:

* Kalen Jordan (Co-host of MageTalk podcast, MageMail.co creator, CommerceHero.io founder): https://blog.commercehero.io/response-1ee004f6d3c7

* Joshua Warren (CEO of Creatuity, a Magento partner agency): http://www.joshuawarren.com/blog/2017/1/5/magento-2-in-2017-...

* Paul Byrne (President of Razoyo, a non-partner Magento agency): https://www.razoyo.com/blog/2017/01/07/2017-starts-rage-apol...

If anyone reading this thread is curious about Magento in 2017, I recommend to check them out as well.

[navs]

I've had the fortune of meeting Karen, who wrote that blog piece, and know how frustrated she's been.

I work with Magento everyday and what she says of a disparity between community and the enterprise agenda is ever so apparent.

Promises can only take you so far.