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by rohanprabhu 3456 days ago
Definitely Kotlin. I had a meeting with my team and talked about the advantages of Kotlin and why I believe we should start writing a proportion of the new modules in Kotlin and have asked for their input. This is one of the cases where it needs to be unanimous decision, but so far everyone seems in favour of it and looks like we'll be writing a good amount of Kotlin in the coming months.

The reason why I believe Kotlin is a great way ahead is - Great java interop, removes a huge amount of boilerplate, results in very readable code and extremely easy to learn (one of the reasons we could not switch to Scala was the steep learning curve which would be a big problem for new developers joining us).
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runT1ME 3456 days ago
>one of the reasons we could not switch to Scala was the steep learning curve which would be a big problem for new developers joining us

I think this is overblown. Yes, the language has a deep learning curve, but you're really trading off language complexity for lack of framework complexity. Because the language is so powerful, you'll see a lot less 'magic' frameworks (no need for a DI framework, no need for AOP, etc) so applications tend to have a really low barrier of entry to work with. We hire new developers all the time and they are productive way before they master the language.

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sotojuan 3456 days ago
This attitude happens all the time FP in the job comes up and it essentially means the parent commenter's company has no time or resources for training or mentoring.

NoRedInk (among other companies) use non-mainstream FP languages and hire juniors all the time. Turns out that people can learn things quickly if they're smart (which is why you hired them, I hope) and are given mentorship.

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k__ 3456 days ago
Cheylon and Scala seemed better to me when they started. But it seems Kotlin is what Java really should have been, hehe :)
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fernandotakai 3456 days ago
my problem with scala seems to be its future. it's so convoluted right now :( (i quite like scala btw)
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sandGorgon 3456 days ago
+1

i am really excited about how the language is evolving. its becoming silly to use anything else on Android now.

on the server Spring 5 is building official support for kotlin as is vert.x. Reactor is integrated closely with kotlin... and the developers are putting in a lot of effort around scripting.

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