[jcizzle]

This is the most unfortunate part. You think that I've picked some side in this; that I'm defending the concept of being American or the things these people are saying.

I'm saying you're generalizing. This behavior is toxic. Instead of saying, 'You know what, you're right, that's really not a representative sample size and I shouldn't have made the generalization.', you doubled down on making it about generalizations.

But at the end of the day, the only person that behavior hurts is you. So, sorry man.

[notheguyouthink]

> This is the most unfortunate part. You think that I've picked some side in this; that I'm defending the concept of being American or the things these people are saying.

You have, though, have you not? You have picked the side of "don't generalize people ever", clearly, no?

I'm on the side of "generalizations and stereotypes are not inherently bad, it's the actions of the person that are bad"

Do you disagree with that?

You call my actions toxic, but what exactly did i do that was toxic? I'm advocating that we judge people by their actions, not their beliefs. What is so wrong with that?

In other words, Don't assume i'm somehow "against" a group of people just because i have assumptions towards them. My dad is heavily religious, i assume and generalize that most religious people don't want me swearing heavily around them - so what! Generalizations aren't bad. Actions are bad. I don't get your view point, clearly.

[unclenoriega]

Your comment did come off as very defensive, at least to me, and presumably to dagenleg as well. I don't think dagenleg is saying that all Americans have this view. (The comment even says it's a stereotype.) I certainly see this thinking all the time in America. It seems that many people's greatest fear is that they will have to subsidize someone else's life in some way. I don't have much direct experience with European culture, but this type of thinking seems less prevalent in Western Europe.