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by rahrahrah 3457 days ago
France as usual leading in workers' rights.
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More like France catching up to the US. This is already the law in the US for hourly employees, which is what the new law in France is scoped to.
That's funny. Most people who are working in a place where they would be pressured to continue doing work after hours are not paid hourly.

And then there is those long term contractors that are hourly but basically on a fixed number of hours per week who still are 'encouraged' to do what little extra is needed to get this project done so their contract can be renewed for the next one once they've shown they can be counted on.

> That's funny. Most people who are working in a place where they would be pressured to continue doing work after hours are not paid hourly

Whether or not they are paid hourly, as long as they are not classified as exempt, they are entitled to overtime pay. (Tech workers are classified as exempt in California, which is indeed a problem and IMHO a mistake, but that's a much smaller issue)

> And then there is those long term contractors that are hourly but basically on a fixed number of hours per week...

Well, that's a bad way to write a contract, but even so, that's a totally different situation because they're not even an employee. And the French law referenced in the original article wouldn't apply in that situation either.

Yeah, I've had the latter. I refused. Had I had something to actually do in those hours it might have been different.

You really need to make it clear to the people you work with that this is an issue of integrity. You want to work with people who have and understand integrity.

I thought Germany already had this? Or was that just cultural rather than legal?
No legal framework for this here in Germany, but most companies tend to keep this stuff to a minimum, yes.