[CydeWeys]

They haven't even cracked the automobile market yet. No one in the west will buy a Chinese car, let alone a Chinese plane.

[toomanybeersies]

They sell Chinese pickup trucks here in New Zealand under the brand "Great Wall".

Everything I've heard about them is that they're unreliable and unsafe to an extreme degree. You're apparently better off buying a 3 year old Toyota Hilux or Nissan Navara for the same price as a brand new Chinese truck.

[CydeWeys]

How long ago did these vehicles go on sale and has there been any improvement in quality since? Japanese and Korean vehicles in general had a rough time entering the US market (decades ago). They did start off being lower quality. But they got better. I wonder if this "Great Wall" manufacturer has it in them to make vehicles that are competitive on a global basis.

[scottm84]

Subaru is a Chinese version of yakuza. They have cracked the market for sure.

Also, mitsubishi can build rockets similar to anything spacex can put up.

[ryhamz]

That feel when you confuse China and Japan.

[scottm84]

Zero confusion whatsoever. I've been over there and sat with them and talked about infrastructure and who gets to use it.

China would have very little reason to enter the broken US car market.

Especially when there is an island sitting right there that is close enough for them to buy their own Mitsubishi 787s

[am183]

Except both are Japanese companies?

[scottm84]

Paper ownership and proximity ownership and value ownership are all very different things on that side of the planet.

Both are Japanese companies in the American version of ownership.

In the proximity version of ownership, both are pirate flags.

[CydeWeys]

Japanese cars aren't manufactured in China. This isn't a tricky situation to unravel.