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by johndubchak
3459 days ago
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Well, I guess we can cite statistics all day to prove each other wrong, but clearly in [1] from 1990 to 1992 it rose before a Clinton Presidency where it fell considerably (not crediting President Clinton directly but he did produce a large number of jobs during his presidency) before President Bush's contractionary policies started a large increase in poverty again in 2000 through 2010 in our worst recession since the Great Depression. It did, this has improved, however it's structurally temporary. The effects of it are that it's also continually displacing larger numbers of the middle-class as our trade policies are moving what remains of our higher paying manufacturing base, what used to make up that lower to middle part of the middle-class blue collar workers, to lower paying countries. So, if you think, with your single graph that poverty isn't increasing you're not looking at what's really happening structurally in the US economy and with all of the relevant data around you.[2] We have College tuition that is unaffordable and an aging, out of work, unemployed, or underemployed workforce, with skills that have not kept up with the rapid change in the shift of American jobs and poverty truly is on the rise. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/200463/us-poverty-rate-s... [2] https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/03/jobs-s03.html
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2) You bring up a lot of other issues that are certainly real problems but they are mostly claims about what might happen in the future. That makes them speculation not fact. And sure, your speculation might end up being true and some of those speculations could lead to an increase in the poverty rate[A]. But you should be careful to frame what you are saying as a prediction about the future not a statement about something that has already happened in the past.
A. Personally I think you're wrong. But that's speculation too!