[Nadya]

Every death in my family that I'm capable of remembering was auto-related and the driver was at fault. All of them were easily preventable if the driver was not distracted or wasn't straight up breaking the law. That is 6 family members I would still have if not for complete human incompetence.

The romanticism of "human control" is not an idea I am willing to support. Humans are terrible at most things they do. We get tired. We get distracted. We become complacent. We bend the rules. We forget steps in the safety protocol. We make incorrect decisions. If there are only 99 ways to do something wrong a human will invent the 100th way of doing it wrong.

If mechanical failures and software errors can be proven to be a safer risk than human error - then humans should be exchanged for robots. Jobs and hobbies be damned if there are lives at stake.

[unclebucknasty]

I don't advocate that we needlessly endanger lives; just that we don't devalue those same humans we claim to want to save.

[fixermark]

To avoid this devaluation, I think we'll need to find other ways in which people are to be valued than "driving acumen."

But that should be pretty straightforward; there's a lot of things people can do that aren't "drive a car."

[unclebucknasty]

As I stated previously, it's not about this one thing.