[phil21]

> I couldn't disagree with you more.

While I try to avoid politics on HN - I'm one data point in disagreement with you.

The only thing to realistically fight climate change is de-population. At least if you want everyone to have a similar standard of living as the "West".

Cleaner energy is something we need - but simple math can tell you that at our current population growth and developmental growth of incredibly poor but populous nations - it only extends the inevitable.

Any environmental program that doesn't make population growth it's first concern is simply a feel-better program in my opinion. It's ignoring the mountain to focus on the molehills.

Anything a future environmental Einstein comes up with will be instantly used to slam the world population right up the the new limit (e.g. the invention of nitrogen fixation).