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by fecak 3462 days ago
18 year agency recruiter here. The problem with most recruiters today is that they are so concerned with controlling the process that they get in the way of letting two adults have a dialogue, and the recruiting industry is inundated with junior level people who don't know what they are doing.

The theory is that if the recruiter has a high level of control over both candidate and client, the odds of a positive outcome for the recruiter (a fee) increase. The client and candidate are both essentially 'buyers' in the sense that they have to agree to accept the other, and the recruiter is 'selling' to both parties.

But nobody wants to buy from someone who sells too hard, and that's what most recruiters end up doing.

When I started in recruiting, I wanted to be involved in every stage of the process to be sure I had some level of control. More recently I've realized that if the candidate is mature (and not going to make rookie mistakes like asking 3x market rate for salary just to 'test the waters') and the client has a decent hiring process, I'll make the intro and then step away until (if) I'm needed.

A recruiter can be quite helpful as a sounding board for both sides during negotiations to help facilitate a deal or save a deal that is failing.

>I’ve had folks change their mind even after accepting an offer. Hell, to be honest I’ve done it myself (and felt terrible about it).

A recruiter should also be helpful in providing guidance on situations like these. For example, I usually offer my clients a handful of tips to try and guarantee that someone who accepts the job will actually show up on day one. Having lunch with the new team between acceptance and start date is probably the most common.

But today's recruiter is far too interested in control. Make the intro, step away, and step in when necessary - otherwise, let them talk.

2 comments

> the recruiting industry is inundated with junior level people who don't know what they are doing.

Agree. That's killing it for me.

The typical message from a new recruiter who dropped out of school or just pivoted to that less than 2 months ago, trying to sell positions (s)he no clue about at companies (s)he doesn't want to tell.

> A recruiter should also be helpful in providing guidance on situations like these.

Agree. I think recruiters should be

1) good middle men negotiations. To advise and prevent the rookie mistakes. Most candidates have very little experience with that (Think, like guys who'll message their dates 12 times in the day because she didn't answer yet.)

2) good contract and professional advisors. It can get really tricky to arrange job offers and contracts, like arranging the start/leave date and notice periods with whatever special stuff apply to your circumstances, at 3 simultaneous competing companies that you know you'll only stay at a single one in the end.

Thanks for your viewpoint!

Some things never change. When hiring for the Itanium BIOS years ago my brother hired 3 people serially and still didn't have anybody, because none of them ever showed up for work.