[ceejay]

I find it extremely powerful that major open source projects are calling the shots instead of the major browser vendors.

For some who may not recall, I think the most famous / historic move was when jQuery decided version 2 would deprecate support for IE 6/7/8.

Originally jQuery project would go out of their way to make sure all browsers were covered. Needless to say these days Microsoft is far more receptive to the needs of the open source community.

[gramstrong]

>Microsoft is far more receptive to the needs of the open source community.

They are, but not for this reason. Microsoft doesn't even support IE9 anymore, so there's not really any reason for any open-sourced project to do so.

[ceejay]

I apologize for not being more clear. I was thinking about the flexbox more than the IE9 deprecation. The jQuery story was only to reinforce the idea that open source projects are "at the negotiating table".

http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox

There is a footnote on that page for IE11 (I believe still supported by Microsoft) that says:

"Partial support is due to large amount of bugs present (see known issues)".

[shard972]

I don't think this shows the open source projects calling the shots, If anything my experience with jQuery since v2, was that we would use v1 instead of v2 in order to support IE.

Also when you consider how many changes were synced back to v1, I think it shows that at the end of the day, the user calls the shots.