[andyy]

That's weird thing to say, I guess no replies from guys in UK (London & rest of the country). It's similar for Netherlands and I know (from my experience) in Germany (Berlin).

'In Europe software companies are more like factories. You punch in, work like a slave all day, then punch out.' > again not sure which countries you speak about (ukraine or romania lol?), maybe it's like that in some, but some have very relaxed attitude

'Overall, remote working in Europe is mostly done for US companies. EU companies are usually mentally disabled.' > again, there're tons of EU based remote work, and I just won't comment on the rest of this generalisation.

I've got a nice remote offers from Spain and Netherlands as we, despite being in UK. I'm getting them all the time.

So just to top the thing about working like a slave all day... - my EU company gives me remote because I do work better in this mode, - my EU company gives me a lot of benefits that guys in US don't see (despite that average salary I'd say is lower in here), - basically it's yet another EU company that hires me and gives me total freedom because I deliver

i.e. if you're good you will always find a remote job with conditions you want.

btw. your comment shows your ignorance and nothing more (and a lack of ability to produce some facts instead of meaningless offences)

'EU companies are usually mentally disabled.' - seriously? you work for some1 or you're building your own 'empire' with this kind of attitude and beliefs?

Overall, your post is full of bs.

[poushkar]

'ukraine or romania lol?' - it's interesting to see that you typed Ukraine and Romania in lowercase while others (Spain, Netherlands, US) in uppercase, but let's skip it for now.

I really wonder what your assumptions about working environments in Ukraine and Romania are based on? Have you ever worked in any of the countries? Do you feel like people there are somehow worse than people in the UK? Or that Ukrainian/Romanian developers are more "slaves" than you?

Thanks

[mrcold]

'again not sure which countries you speak about (ukraine or romania lol?), maybe it's like that in some, but some have very relaxed attitude' > I'm talking about Western Europe. Mostly Germany, Netherlands, UK and Scandinavia. I was referring to office jobs, not remote.

Eastern Europe is actually pretty great because it has an American influence. No stupid EU brainwashing. Only capitalism. Also, your tone about Ukraine and Romania is condescending. Not very nice.

'again, there're tons of EU based remote work, and I just won't comment on the rest of this generalisation.' > It's low quality. Basically, remote work in Europe means "Let's find some third-world slaves that will work for cheap.". They offer remote because they don't want to pay the high salaries in their own countries.

I've got a nice remote offers from Spain and Netherlands as we, despite being in UK. I'm getting them all the time.' > I get these offers all the time. And they all offer average salaries. They search in other countries because they are trying to find cheap slaves.

'my EU company gives me a lot of benefits that guys in US don't see (despite that average salary I'd say is lower in here)' > Your mistake was accepting the lower salary. But it's understandable since you don't seem to be familiar with how things actually work.

Just to give you an idea, I work in Eastern Europe. And the equivalent salary in UK to maintain my quality of life would be about 150k GBP. I'm happy that you're happy. But I'm pretty sure you're concentrating too much on the silver lining.

I worked for European companies. And I worked for American companies with branches in Europe. And American companies are simply on another level. They might suck in the US, but they don't when they come to Europe.

[ddorian43]

What benefits does the EU company give you more beside more free days compared to US ?

[andyy]

I'll just mention one thing, maybe that's not important for you - US maternity law, come on... it's a joke ;) all of this stuff is way in favour in most countries of Europe.

btw. I like my free days, I like a lot the extra ones (not the ones that companies are obligated to) if you work for good company.

time is precious so a lot of companies are very flexible, in here it's nothing new & nothing uncommon to do 4 days instead 5 etc. or change any day with any weekend day if you please.

[mrcold]

I think you drank too much of the kool-aid. You're very happy about things that are normal in Europe. And you are willing to be underpaid to get them. You don't have to be. You can get a good salary and the benefits too. It's funny how you're fighting the guys that want this to happen.