[kraigspear]

Yes, as part of a project that has used Swift for the last year, migrating away from Objective-C on a decent size codebase, I can say it is not ready for primetime.

Swift 2.2 + Xcode 7 wasn't great, but it was livable.

Constraint SourceKit crashes makes Xcode essentially a text editor and not a good one. All indexing, highlighting essentially all IDE functionally lost.

This is the worst development experience that I've seen in 20+ years as a developer.

I thought the CoreData / CloudKit debacle from 3 years ago was bad, but oh my God, I just want to jump ship and go to Android, switch to Xamarin, or just leave mobile at this point.

It would be nice to have some level of optimism and say this is growing pains, but I don't have any faith that the Apple developers are competent in making this better.

[rudedogg]

Most of my problems seem to be with Xcode. The crashes can be pretty frustrating, and most I encounter are repeatable (which makes me think they should of been caught in testing).

The failure in releasing Xcode 8.2/iOS 10.2, but not updating the iTunes Connect backend to allow iOS 10.2 as the max was pretty disheartening. All apps were automatically rejected for half the day. How does something like that slip through the cracks? To find out if it was fixed I had to periodically check twitter :\. There was no blog post, no status page I could check - my only hope was some unlucky dev I found that didn't even work on the iTunes Connect/App Submission team.

I think the consensus is that we need nothing but bug fixes on the core stuff (Xcode, SourceKit, etc).

[bsaul]

indeed. i think apple has a general software quality issue and should now think about hiring some senior devs from microsoft to help them sort their process out.

[npalli]

how big is this decent size codebase?

[kraigspear]

397 Swift files, 2K Obj-C.