[mona_simpson]

I suspect this article is going to get some heated discussion pretty quickly.

I don't believe you have failed anyone and I hope you'll allow me to explain why I think so.

In the West (and developed countries), we expect our local authorities to deal with problems we see on a day to day basis. And they do. When you see a car accident, you call 911 and an ambulance and fire crew arrive, cut trapped people out and take them to hospital where doctors and nurses work to treat their injuries. Meantime, police turn up, close the road, help clear things up, set diversions and get traffic flowing, then clear everything up and everything goes back to normal.

Naturally, used to all this potency of our 'leaders', we see another horrible situation (e.g. Syria) and, based on our experience, we naturally expect our leaders to step in and fix that horrible situation too.

But they cannot.

To do so, you need to want your country to act like a colonial power and send in troops - some of whom will be killed - in order to suppress and defeat the evils we are so upset about.

We know from history that a colonial power, suppressing a local authority, must be prepared to be brutal (even more so than those being suppressed) in order to succeed.

But no-one wants to be a colonial power (ok, it's frowned upon in reasonably liberal democracies at least).

And any recent attempts (Vietnam on) have ended in miserable failure and basically made things worse.

Even if you are advocating for some World Police to move in and take over, there isn't even agreement on who that would be. Russians see that as their role, Americans see it as their role.

Neither country would accept the other doing it exclusively nor would they really be able to work together to do it as they both have different standards of what is acceptable and what is not.

So, unless there is an answer to all that, neither you nor anyone else outside the theater has a personal responsibility.

That does not stop you feeling legitimately upset or anguished about the situation. That's something completely different. But don't confuse the two issues.

[devoply]

Interest in regime change caused the crisis in Syria. Let's not kid ourselves. Our leaders are responsible for that mess. And they have no clue as to how to fix it. The whole thing was social engineering plot to get rid of Assad in the mist of Arab Spring. And that caused a civil war. Oops. Arabs have been at the mercy of American ambitions which are jaded by Saudi ambitions to mold the whole region into an area sympathetic to their interests. And they have been playing one monster against another at the cost of Arabs for decades. Meanwhile taking no responsibility for any of it, and blaming it on the monsters that they constantly help mold and manipulate. Yes the monsters were there to begin with, but their meddling creates chaos in the power structure that causes constant catastrophe.

[mhurron]

So the solution is to meddle more and this time 'the west' will shit unicorns and rainbows right?

That's why many people don't want their government to meddle in it and why it's not 'everyone in the west's' failing. Of course, these people didn't want to meddle in the first place.

[devoply]

I agree with that. But if you don't want to meddle then you have to quit supplying the region and pull out... Which is not going to happen. Obama sold the Saudis 150 billion dollars in ammo. You think that's going to stop. UK same thing. Germany same thing. The meddling starts with business... but it does not end there.

As Tupac said, " Give 'em guns, step back, and watch 'em kill each other."...

[relics443]

I in no way, expect our leaders to fix the situation in Syria. We have enough problems at home.

And the article highlighting similarities between the Holocaust and the Syrian civil war is sickening.

1. In the Holocaust, Jews were being hunted down and killed for no reason other than the fact that they were Jewish. Asad is murdering his own subjects indiscriminately. Are we supposed to just take in the entire Syrian country? I don't think he's purposely targeting Sunnis over Shiites or vice-a-versa (although I may be wrong in this regard) 2. There was no reason not to take Jews in. They don't have a publicly declared, religously mandated doctrine of hate for the West (especially the USA), or come from a society that is completely incompatible with Western society. I'm not saying every Muslim is like that, but even 10% of 2 billion is a lot...