[xnull2guest]

> Well, that's because it's international waters.

We're back to pretending opinions are facts, are we?

> There's also an attempt by China to associate the geography "Taiwan" with "China", when it's obviously a separate country.

Interestingly here, Taiwan's constitution and official policy does not claim there are two Chinese states. The United States and world consensus also recognizes the People's Republic of China as a government, but not Taiwan.

Do you explicitly disagree with ROC, PRC and the US about the status of Taiwan as a separate country?

[pjc50]

Does anyone else here remember the Iraqi Information Minister giving a "there are no Americans in Baghdad" speech while US tanks literally rolled past in the background?

It was Iraqi opinion that they were winning the war. It was US opinion that the US was winning the war. One of those was a fact and the other wasn't.

[kahnpro]

The official status of Taiwan is playing politics. Nations stopped recognizing Taiwan as a result of PRC's ascendancy. But the PRC does not govern there.

Technically Crimea belongs to Ukraine and most of the world acknowledges this.

But in all practical realty--de facto--Crimea is now Russian territory. It's not foolish to acknowledge this.

[douche]

Interestingly, the Taiwanese government was on the UN security council for a number of years after being driven off the mainland.