[haberman]

> Tesla already does fully autonomous driving, they released that video in November.

That video, for reference, is: https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-...

I'm not super convinced by that video. That drive had almost no challenges/obstacles. No bicycles, no construction, basically no pedestrians, no other vehicles behaving erratically.

Google has cars that can respond to everything from a cyclist making hand signals, to a school bus (which must not be passed), to a police car pulling it over, to a woman chasing a duck across the road: https://youtu.be/tiwVMrTLUWg?t=8m49s

I'm also not sure this is a simple case of "throw data and hardware at the problem." If it were that easy, it wouldn't have taken Google so long to get to where they are today.

[rory096]

They released a video a month later (3 weeks ago) with a much more challenging route:

https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware...

[Ph0X]

Again, not to take away by the amazing feat Tesla has achieved, but Google has had similar videos going back 2-3 years, and they are still not ready to release.

So either the problem in practice is much harder than a simple video can show, or something else is up.

Though, I think the real issue is that google wants to go straight for L5 (meaning 100% automated, and you can remove the steering wheel). As compared to an L4, which is more like 99.9% automated, but you still need steering wheel for those rare edge cases.

[JohnDotAwesome]

I can attest to the police car pulling it over. I saw a little Google car pulled over on the way to the grocery store a month or two ago.