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by marcoceppi 3472 days ago
Unlike other companies, we don't jump in to upstream projects and throw weight around to influence a project to make it more marketable for us. Kubernetes has a vibrant, and powerful core contributor base already. When it makes sense, for any changes we make, we'll be happy to package those back upstream. Primarily, our contributions to Kubernetes is around operations. What happens 1 week, 1 month, 1 year after setting up a cluster.

GKE is great, but GKE is Google only. It's not on-prem, it's not cross cloud, and it's not portable. That's important to some people. Our contributions to cluster/juju is the distillation of our operational knowledge in running Kubernetes everywhere. The same upstream k8s, deployed with the same tooling, everywhere.

Not all value can be measured in commits :)
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SEJeff 3472 days ago
The way you start this off is a pretty poor response to my original question, whereas the rest is fantastic. It isn't about throwing one's weight around or even making it more marketable, but about improving the product for new use cases (such as Apprenda wanting to better Kubernetes via the on-premise sig).

Thanks for your response, I was curious as to the value add and this helps.

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marcoceppi 3472 days ago
Thanks for the feedback, my original sentence may have been a bit hasty, but the core of the message is there. I see Canonical's role as the expediter/server in a kitchen instead of donning another chef hat when dish are piling up to go out. We want to celebrate and get the amazing work of the community into as many hands as possible.

We participate in SIGs as well, sig-on-premise being one we co-chair and co-founded. We've planning on helping the project in ways other than code contributions.

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SEJeff 3471 days ago
Sorry I meant even Apprenda has actual golang feature commits. That was my point Re: Apprenda and contributions.

This seems to be Canonical's general direction. It just makes me sad that is is more on marketing than engineering. I wish it was more of both as clearly Canonical does Linux + marketing better than basically anyone or there wouldn't be so much Ubuntu everywhere :)

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jcastro 3472 days ago
We're participating in the on-prem sig now that it's been acked, along with Apprenda, CoreOS, Mirantis, and I'm sure some others.
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