[apenney]

How do you judge those qualities? I too interview for a similar set of skills (intelligence, curiosity, a desire to constantly improve things, someone who's just willing to put in the hard slog as well as work on the fun projects) but it's incredibly hard!

I've definitely had people that interviewed well that just wanted JIRA tickets fed to them immediately upon starting. It's very hard to figure out if someone will seek out and make improvements consistently from the basis of conversations.

(I'm in ops so there's rarely a body of code available they can share for how they work, either.)

[saiya-jin]

take it with a pinch of salt... people that excel in all 4 criteria are at most 1% of workforce, and you need to bring some serious money and interesting challenges to attract them over from other seriously paying places with great challenges and atmosphere and whatnot.

I mean, what ambitious person would like to worse in less that best job available on the market, for best possible money?