[awinder]

I'm just saying I can cut test time dramatically by not testing that X db actually can do it's job in expected ways, and those tests can run sans networking and unexpected situations won't cause false negatives. Both things are fine and they go very well together but each allows you to do different things

[goldenkek]

exact tests on implementation at the "db was updated properly" category are usually classified as integration tests. theres nothing wrong with those. but one shouldnt test specificity of internal method code for small units.