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by bluejekyll 3483 days ago
To say nothing of the fact that a programmer can't use the CLI? What programmer is that?

I mean, I'm all in favor of tools that integrate into the IDE, that reduce the overhead of running commands, but not being able to use the CLI would be a huge red flag.

In fact, you now have me considering writing a new interview test to make sure people are literate with the CLI.
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chrisfosterelli 3483 days ago
> To say nothing of the fact that a programmer can't use the CLI? What programmer is that?

I've seen this a fair bit before. The most common case (in my experience) is "enterprise" developers who use an IDE, only develop in a single language, and use a GUI Git tool for version control.

I would say that, in most cases, the assumption that they don't have a strong understanding of the concepts abstracted away from them (compilers/git/etc) tend to be more correct than not.

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untog 3483 days ago
> To say nothing of the fact that a programmer can't use the CLI? What programmer is that?

People who use Excel, maybe. There are a lot of people who do "programming" in their job without their job title containing "programmer". I can absolutely believe that these days there are people out there brewing up little JS scripts to help them with their day-to-day tasks.

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mixedCase 3483 days ago
>I can absolutely believe that these days there are people out there brewing up little JS scripts to help them with their day-to-day tasks.

I can't. At least if we're talking about people who can't use a CLI or read JSON.

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untog 3483 days ago
I personally got my start in programming through Access -> VBA -> VB.NET -> C# -> JS/Ruby/Python/whatever. The first four involved little to no CLI work.
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