[wingerlang]

> Programmers are the ones who have the ideas.

Other people can have ideas too, and they can hire programmers to code it for them. Not sure why you put emphasis on programmers having the ideas.

[nailer]

Because they're aware of what tech can and can't do. Not the grandparent, but it's right there in the post you're replying to.

[wingerlang]

I read the "ideas" as having the business ideas, not the implementation detail ideas.

[nailer]

The implementation possibilities limit or expand the product idea.

Also the implementation is the product, and the product is most of the business. They are not separate things.