[izacus]

Watching a movie or listening to music stored on your NAS. Turning your "smart" light off and on. Using your remote (since even those are cloud connected now).

You know, everyday stuff, for which modern IoT equivalents somehow need internet connectivity to work.

[jptman]

But the app is required for configuration, not for actually using your wifi, right? Perhaps I'm wrong.. The overlap for needing to configure your network and the internet connection being down is probably very small, although not non-existant.

[mmebane]

> The overlap for needing to configure your network and the internet connection being down is probably very small, although not non-existant.

It seems to me like "troubleshooting why the internet connection is down" is probably a capability you would want to have, no?