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by tomh 3485 days ago
Kharkiv, Ukraine: university town, lots of IT companies and meetups, cold but not as cold as Moscow or Estonia, very cheap prices, US/EU passports get 90 days entry, visa-free.

There is this whole Russia thing (we're 50km from the border), so if that's a problem, try Kyiv or Lviv or Odesa.

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Can you do thailand-style re-entry runs every 90 days?
It used to be that way, but Ukr border control has instituted a '90 out of every 180 days' rule. You can get around that with a proper business visa (usually granted for 1 year), or by using two passports, or by paying a fine upon leaving the country if you overstay.
How much is the fine roughly? Sorry for the persistent questions but this is the most interesting one so far.
No worries at all - sooooo, I've never been fined myself but the stories I hear vary from expat to expat. One refused to pay and got a 'black stamp' in their passport barring them from reentry for 6+ months.

Not wanting to speculate, I've looked up one source and it looks like the fine is between 850-1700 Ukrainian Grivna, which is currently trading at around 25 to the dollar: http://www.frishberg.com/index.php/en/newsletters/196-ukrain...