[jarek]

Others have already pointed out the N900.

On a more historical note, mobile Flash did exist in 2007. I was using it to watch Youtube on my Nokia N800. It was slow -- the device didn't have enough CPU power to simultaneously download and playback, so you had to pause the video and let it cache completely first. But it most definitely did exist, and I am convinced that implementation would have worked well on 2009 hardware. The N800 wasn't exactly a breakthrough device, nor was it super popular. Yet Adobe somehow managed to deliver for Nokia.

The N800 was introduced in early 2007. Its predecessor, the 770, was introduced in late 2005, with Flash out of the box. I never owned one so I cannot comment on the performance.

I would also challenge your statements regarding Apple delivering HTML video for mobile devices -- mostly the HTML years ago part. Also, H.264, which Apple is pushing, is by no means an open standard, which some of their competitors have issues with.

[tjogin]

Simply existing is not good enough for Apple, their bar is higher than that. See copy/paste on iPhone for an example:

They could have implemented the menu-driven kind of copy/paste found on Palm Pre and Android, but they wouldn't because it sucks. Apple prefers nothing at all over a solution that sucks. So we got nothing in place of cut/paste, until they figured out to do it in a way that didn't suck. Simply existing is not good enough. Not even Adobe is claiming that Flash on mobiles works today, let alone three years ago.

[jarek]

You are, of course, correct; I was responding to my parent's unqualified claims that "mobile Flash is still nowhere to be found on any mobile device" and "mobile Flash didn't exist in 2007".

[barake]

Performance of Flash on the N770 was pretty bad but I have a feeling that the 252Mhz OMAP and 64MB of RAM were the problem.

I bet the 1Ghz Snapdragon/512MB RAM combo you're seeing in new HTC devices could run Flash fine if the Nokia Maemo devices could chug along.