[hota_mazi]

> It is good when the manufacturer of a product you pay for has interests in line with your own.

You realize that you traded Google no longer tracking your every step and key press with Apple tracking your every step and key press, right?

And because iOS is closed source, you know even less about what is being tracked than you did with Android.

I'm not judging, I don't really care either way, but your position doesn't seem very rational.

[isliiiive]

> You realize that you traded Google no longer tracking your every step and key press with Apple tracking your every step and key press, right?

Apple exerts substantial effort to NOT relay unnecessary information to their servers; spend some time in Wireshark and you will see.

> And because iOS is closed source, you know even less about what is being tracked than you did with Android.

Don't get me wrong, AOSP is open source and that's great, but Google Play Services (which you need to use to use the Play store) and friends are completely closed-source. The iOS kernel is open source; it's a pretty similar situation either way. This is not a good argument IMHO.

[hota_mazi]

Do you seriously think Wireshark tells you anything about what is being sent to servers? All it tells you is what hosts are being contacted, but for anything else, you're completely in the dark.

> This is not a good argument IMHO.

I totally agree, so why did you make the argument that you felt that Apple respects your privacy more than Google does?

There's literally no way to know.

[macintux]

All you have to do is look at their business models.

Google exists because of your data. Without it they don't sell ads.

Apple exists because it sells devices. Consumer trust is critical. If it turns out Apple is lying about differential privacy, on-device data processing, etc, then that trust would be broken.

Were Apple lying about your privacy, that information would leak out. It always does.

But go ahead and keep the tinfoil hat firmly in place because you'd rather hate Apple than go with the more secure, more private offering.

[hota_mazi]

Hate Apple? Where did you see I hate Apple? I understand it's comfortable for you to think that since it allows you to continue believing incorrect things about how these companies operate.

The discussion is about disputing the claim that Apple cares about your privacy while Google doesn't.

I'm just demonstrating this argument is not just nonsense, there is simply no way to know what either of these companies do with your information and saying that you don't trust Google with your data and therefore, you pick Apple demonstrates a fundamental ignorance of how both companies work.