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by htaunay 3494 days ago
When Extra Credits "Propaganda Games" video came out about a year ago[1], I was relived when I read that "Sesame Credit" was a complete fabrication, and even questioned EC for posting such a video without source checking.

Apparently is wasn't completely fabricated after all.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

2 comments

It is not fabricated, it just wasn't accurately reported.

Every article I read described it as a government system already implemented and measuring every aspect of your life, when it was actually a scheme created by a private company within their ecosystem and most people used it for showing off.

The government proposed system is still in pilot stage.

https://www.techinasia.com/china-citizen-scores-credit-syste...

Yeah, your answer should be pinned at the top. Most discussions going on here are without a real understanding of what's actually happening.

I have a Sesame credit score. It's pretty low. The whole system seems incredibly creepy though, even without the misreported government political intrusion aspects. I basically have to let a private company know all the details of my education, work and personal life (plus they have my entire purchasing history on Taobao, which covers most aspects of my life), and then they'll give me a score. I totally understand the need for a credit score in the context of giving loans, but the threat is always that this score then gets applied to other arenas as a generalized trustworthiness rating.

I several times heard accusations of it being fake, but never once saw any credible source, proving it's fake. So I still don't know where these accusation came from.
Your logic is backwards. Neither Extra Credit or you cited any credible sources to prove the terrible outcomes of such system claimed in that YouTube video is accurate or true.

Note that I don't totally disagree with Extra Credit in that such credit rating system may potentially be abused by government. However, from this Chinese version of wikipedia page of Sesame Credit[1], it specifically read as those credit rating agencies are independent 3rd party entities. Also in the use cases, it mentions online shopping transactions and dating site records, car rentals but nowhere does it mention social networking sites activities(I mean people don't talk about radical political views in their dating site profiles, do they?) like what Extra Credit claim Sesame Credits will source data from.

[1]: http://baike.baidu.com/view/12108011.htm