[douche]

One of the things I think we forget about here, where most of us are smarter than the average bear, is that there are a lot of people that aren't so smart. If you have an 80 IQ, you might be able to learn how to code, but it's going to be really hard and you're never going to be as good as somebody with more mental resources to start with. My mother works as a special ed teacher - her main concern is trying to get her kids reading and doing math within one or two grade-levels of where they ought to be, and with a lot of effort and one-on-one work, she sometimes succeeds. Some years, 25% of the entire grade will be on her case-load.

A hundred years ago, these people could do pretty alright working on the farm. Fifty years ago, they could do real well working in the mills. Today, they struggle to subsist on WalMart and McDonald's wages. Already, we're automating those jobs away.

[misiti3780]

I agree in spirit, but I think most people are capable of obtaining an STEM degree (you're being too pessimistic). You just have to work a bit harder than say you work for an art history degree (and you certainly come out of college less well-rounded, which is also a huge problem).

There are always going to be good jobs that don't require college degrees. Plumbers can make $100K a year if they're good and work hard. I'd rather be a plumber making $100K any day then working for $25/bucks per hour trying to pay off my $180K in student loans from a B+ list law school. (a lot of people are in this position)

If you can get through law school, you can certainly get through any STEM degree.

[mercer]

You're very optimistic. I suspect there are tons of people who can not get through law school or get an art history degree!

I've spent quite a chunk of my life around people who are somewhere on the lower half of the intelligence curve. I grew up in poor neighborhoods, and attended a pentecostal church for much of my life (which at least over here contains the full spectrum of 'classes', but skews working class).

Lots of these people just cannot handle the level of abstraction (or whatever the thing is they need) to obtain even the easiest of college degrees.

On the other hand, I also learned that 'smart' is a very multi-dimensional thing and from their perspective 'academic me' is a complete idiot in so many ways. I'm just saying that the particular skills needed for (most of?) college are skills that a lot of people don't have.