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by sqldba 3496 days ago
Wish there was a good book about the history of crays. It's the kind of thing you hear talked about but are unlikely to ever see.

Mainframes in general too.

I'm currently listening to Soul of a New Machine.

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> Mainframes in general too.

Mainframes are great, already using almost[0] memory safe systems programming language on the 60's with Burroughs, followed by IBM and a few other vendors.

Virtualization and containers with the 360.

Bytecode as universal binary format with JIT/AOT at kernel level, DB based file system, System/38 and AS/400.

Object based OS, AS/400.

[0] - They still have the issue of leaks and double free though, but everything else is safe Algol style with explicit unsafe blocks/modules required.

Talk about a commitment to backwards compatibility – you can run binaries built 30 years ago for god knows what proprietary processor on a modern POWER8 system without recompiling.

I also find it kind of amusing that IBM, a primarily consulting company, developed AS/400, given that part of its sales pitch is that integrated database requires no maintenance and you can forget entirely about your IBM i and just leave it running for a decade.

It's a neat system. I wish I had the opportunity to use one. In many ways it feels like we're still catching up to what System/38 was doing in 1979.

I was responsible for doing backups on a AS/400 during a Summer internship in the early 90's. Sadly did not do much more than exchanging the tapes, logging in and starting the backup.
> "Wish there was a good book about the history of crays. It's the kind of thing you hear talked about but are unlikely to ever see."

That would be a great read.

My favorite Cray tidbit: for fun, Seymour Cray dug tunnels underneath his home, and had a lot of his breakthroughs while doing so.

   he attributed the secret of his success to "visits by elves" while he worked in the tunnel: 
   "While I'm digging in the tunnel, the elves will often come to me with solutions to my problem."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cray#Personal_life
My favorite Seymour Cray anecdote is from Alan Kay when he did an AMA here on hn a few months ago:

"Seymour Cray was a man of few words. I was there for three weeks before I realized he was not the janitor."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11941941

He'd also famously construct a sailboat, sail around in it, and then torch it at the end of the season so he'd have to construct another one.
The Supermen: The Story of Seymour Cray and the Technical Wizards Behind the Supercomputer, Charles J. Murray, 1997
Next time you're in the Bay Area, don't miss the Computer History Museum in Mountain View. Lots of Cray action there.
Apparently there is now a working CDC 6500 (designed by Cray) at Paul Allen's computer museum in Seattle.