[conflux0]

If you want to keep the features you could just stay with your current firmware. It is optional to upgrade, not a forced decision. Also it begs the question of why you want to keep the functionality. If you were going to use it for the cell computing power or just messing around you could always use the old firmware and upgrade when you want to use the playstation network functionality. If you want to keep both features there is a good chance the reason why you would want to do so is to pirate games. Could someone explain to me why there is any legitimacy in this suit?

[chc]

No, it is not optional to upgrade — at least not in the usual sense of the word. If you upgrade, you lose the ability to run Linux. If you don't upgrade, you lose the ability to play games. That's more like an ultimatum than a traditional optional install.

[chrischen]

You can still play games... Just not online, which is a free service anyways.

[dmm]

Several PSN games will not work without the PSN, even while playing single-player.

EDIT: Also new games will not work without upgrading.

[dmm]

> If you want to keep both features there is a good chance the reason why you would want to do so is to pirate games

There is no known way to pirate games on the ps3. Geohot's hack only allows access to the hypervisor. There are several security measures in place that would still prevent people from playing copied games.

[chrischen]

The problem is that Sony would have to patch vulnerabilities like that and keep maintaining the OtherOS compatibility.

For a service that's useless to like 99% of PS3 owners, it's understandable they no longer want to maintain it. And frankly I don't really care for it, so long as I'm not paying a monthly fee.

[dmm]

> The problem is that Sony would have to patch vulnerabilities like that and keep maintaining the OtherOS compatibility.

You don't understand the problems. There really isn't a good way to patch the vulnerability found. That still doesn't mean I'm not pissed sony removed otheros.

> And frankly I don't really care for it,

Good for you? This discussion is for those who do care.

[chrischen]

> Good for you? This discussion is for those who do care.

Thanks.

For those who need OtherOS, you are undoubtedly in the very small minority with special undoubtedly non-gaming or game-purchase-inducing activities.

Therefore the needs of this minority aren't going to be put in front of the needs of those who purchased a PS3 to play games with. If they divert resources to fixing the OtherOS somehow, that detracts from their resources to provide for the game-playing movie-playing users of the PS3.

In other words, if you purchased a PS3 for the OtherOS functionality, why should you expect to also have the cutting edge system updates targeted at people who bought the PS3 for games? You do have a choice to not upgrade and continue using your OtherOS, and for many people who do use OtherOS this is a viable option. For example if you have a cluster of these for scientific research or whatever, you're not going to complain about it not playing some new game.

I think it's one thing if Sony secretly patched your PS3 and removed the OtherOS, but they explicitly ask you if you want to upgrade. You can either choose to upgrade to the new stuff they are providing gratis (after all they are not obligated to provide updates are they?) or maintain the system exactly as you had purchased it, which contain the EXACT functionalities it had when you purchased it (including the ability to play games released at the time you purchased it).

[eru]

Perhaps he wants to play around with Linux and play new games from time to time?