[alienjr]

But non of them is financed voluntary and non of them was created in voluntary association.

[bsaul]

I think any recently formed countries, created by pionners (Israel come to my mind, and kurdistan may be the next) would contradict your claim.

[alienjr]

Most Palestinians and anti-government Jews in Israel wouldn't agree. Maybe Kurdistan will be the first country in which political elites (backed by populist voting majority) treat all their citizens as subjects and not as objects to achieve their own objectives. I hope so, I don't know much about Kurdistan.